Papel-Gone?

i was referring to the old time regulars (not the new regulars), circa 2004-2005.

This format is definitely more game thread friendly. I think a general pre-game agreement to ignore the troll(s) and then sticking to it (guilty as charged here for failing - do as I say, not as I do) will cause the attention seeking troll(s) to whither on the vine.

This site is too fun to lose, and this season is going to be '07ish! I'd like to spend more time here.

Yeah, you're right - it just felt like a gut-punch and that he was giving up those hits on purpose last year.  It's just more shitty that he was so fucking lights out before...He surly needs more than two pitches.

Yeah, you're right - it just felt like a gut-punch and that he was giving up those hits on purpose last year.  It's just more shitty that he was so fucking lights out before...He surly needs more than two pitches.

No, he's not.

The fact that there are a couple players on the roster who were born in 1990 blows my damn mind.

Strength in numbers ... pap will close this year, bard the next and into the future.
Jenks is set up ... Is Okie still around?

I miss everyone here posting during games
I dont mind dealing with trolls here. Too hard to keep up with pots on FB during games

Is it April yet?

I believe it's a simple case of hedging one's bet.  Jenks isn't a huge risk (expensive) and Paps has thrown a round house by his words... I believe you take paps at his word and start the separation process by signing Jenks. 

I believe it's a simple case of hedging one's bet.  Jenks isn't a huge risk (expensive) and Paps has thrown a round house by his words... I believe you take paps at his word and start the separation process by signing Jenks. 

I disagree Hayes.  =-X

 His ineffectiveness was because he had a fastball with no movement, and a curve that was a bit predictable. Not really a curve (slider, whatever). He needs to have 3 effective pitches. And the fastball needs to come up to about 94-96, not 91-93. 

Only Rivera can throw the same thing and get away with it. Because it is barely hittable. You have to be patient with him and maybe hit a mistake. Paps, his pitches seemed to be very easy to predict. 

I disagree Hayes.  =-X

 His ineffectiveness was because he had a fastball with no movement, and a curve that was a bit predictable. Not really a curve (slider, whatever). He needs to have 3 effective pitches. And the fastball needs to come up to about 94-96, not 91-93. 

Only Rivera can throw the same thing and get away with it. Because it is barely hittable. You have to be patient with him and maybe hit a mistake. Paps, his pitches seemed to be very easy to predict. 

There was no defection BB, just an alternate universe that lets us pick and choose. It keeps certain people from lurking there. And they know who they are. 

There was no defection BB, just an alternate universe that lets us pick and choose. It keeps certain people from lurking there. And they know who they are. 

oops, that was me channeling the goatman....

that was the good old days.....  before all you fuckos defected to facebook. ;)  

that was the good old days.....  before all you fuckos defected to facebook. ;)  

good for him, I hope he gets to play everyday, he deserves a shot.

He'll stay this year and we'll all have ulcers.  His issues seem to be mental, but what do I know...maybe the close competition will improve him.  I'm am sensing the ghost of gagne...

He'll stay this year and we'll all have ulcers.  His issues seem to be mental, but what do I know...maybe the close competition will improve him.  I'm am sensing the ghost of gagne...

Fabulous...didn't we have used to have haiku wednesdays or something?

Gentleman Bill Hall is an Astro:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101217&content_id=16338550&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

Gentleman Bill Hall is an Astro:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101217&content_id=16338550&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

what's better than 2 good relievers? 3...

better - ??

keep paplebon's ass
bard can't set up and close too
jenks? no fucking way

Keep Paps on, I've seen Jenks close and we don't need that.  He makes Paps look good on his worst day.  Jenks should strictly be a setup man (though a rather expensive one)

Keep Paps on, I've seen Jenks close and we don't need that.  He makes Paps look good on his worst day.  Jenks should strictly be a setup man (though a rather expensive one)

almost a haiku!

I think he stays for this year and then gone.  Sox are going for it in '11.

I think he stays for this year and then gone.  Sox are going for it in '11.

I just can't picture Paps going anywhere before the July deadline... and even then... if he get his act together and is insanely awesome destroying hitters with a new breaking pitch, do we trade him?

Hell no!!!

Yes, I did see your response. :)  Sorry for the delay in getting back.

Yes, I did see your response. :)  Sorry for the delay in getting back.

If you read the article on the globe Denton, it says "Jenks was told he will be a set up man" or something to that extent and that "he could compete for the closer job WHEN Papelbon leaves." 

Keep him in a contract year, lets see what hes capable of when it matter to him. 

If you read the article on the globe Denton, it says "Jenks was told he will be a set up man" or something to that extent and that "he could compete for the closer job WHEN Papelbon leaves." 

Keep him in a contract year, lets see what hes capable of when it matter to him. 

Papelbon is gone, and that's ok.  Be it this off season, during the season, or next off season.  So this move is the logical step.  I vote for just letting him walk.  He's in a contract year so he'll be on his game. And last year we learned the value of having depth to deal with injuries, so again, I vote to let it ride, we should be in a position to win either way.  Injury? We'll have depth.  Paps sucks, we have Bard.  Paps kicks ass, cool, we have him.

Papelbon is gone, and that's ok.  Be it this off season, during the season, or next off season.  So this move is the logical step.  I vote for just letting him walk.  He's in a contract year so he'll be on his game. And last year we learned the value of having depth to deal with injuries, so again, I vote to let it ride, we should be in a position to win either way.  Injury? We'll have depth.  Paps sucks, we have Bard.  Paps kicks ass, cool, we have him.

getting rid of paplebon is stupid.
bard can't set up and close.
jenks as the full time closer?  no fucking way.

getting rid of paplebon is stupid.
bard can't set up and close.
jenks as the full time closer?  no fucking way.

The ptbnl was Eric Patterson. This was announced yesterday.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2010/12/patterson_to_th.html

Mrs ESF and I "traded" Papelbon from our Red Sox McFarlane figures Hall of Fame just last week.  Wonder if the real Sox will follow suit? 

*off into London today for three nights, and the snow has just started to fall*

Mrs ESF and I "traded" Papelbon from our Red Sox McFarlane figures Hall of Fame just last week.  Wonder if the real Sox will follow suit? 

*off into London today for three nights, and the snow has just started to fall*

I think Theo and Co. sit back and watch what happens in spring / early summer. They should have a feel for which way to go. If Paps learns something other than a 91 mph ball that gets creamed, with no movement, then we have a great pen.

Or he's gone by July for a complimentary / missing piece.

One or the other.  

I think Theo and Co. sit back and watch what happens in spring / early summer. They should have a feel for which way to go. If Paps learns something other than a 91 mph ball that gets creamed, with no movement, then we have a great pen.

Or he's gone by July for a complimentary / missing piece.

One or the other.  

Nevermind on what I said here...good news on that front...

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101216&content_id=16332932&vkey=news_bos&c_id=bos

Nevermind on what I said here...good news on that front...

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101216&content_id=16332932&vkey=news_bos&c_id=bos

Personally, I feel that he's gonna end up being that "player to be named" on the way to San Diego before long...they gave us a big name, we're giving them one.  They did say the PTBN'ed wasn't a prime prospect...could be likely, but they've got a decent closer out in SD already, so I could be wrong - in fact, I hope I'm wrong.  I'll have to agree with wanting him to stick around for one more October dance.

Personally, I feel that he's gonna end up being that "player to be named" on the way to San Diego before long...they gave us a big name, we're giving them one.  They did say the PTBN'ed wasn't a prime prospect...could be likely, but they've got a decent closer out in SD already, so I could be wrong - in fact, I hope I'm wrong.  I'll have to agree with wanting him to stick around for one more October dance.

Stats aside, I just can't see him fitting in anywhere but here.